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  Watchtower August leak: details from reddit user

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from reddit.. a summary of changes: .

  we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.

  if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!

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  joey jojo

  It has become obvious that this organisation will bend over for almost any government that threatens to remove their free cash hand-outs. It is the only thing that seems to incentivise them to act on changes to Government requirements. JW's will fight any goverment all the way to the highest courts to avoid having to answer for matters like child sex abuse.

  Yet, even the youngest jw child, old enough to talk is expected to stand up for their faith - with no expectation of reward - and every expectation of humiliation from their peers, on ridiculous matters like birthday parties.
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  They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

  it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

  understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

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  FFGhost
  Yeah, that’s not from any “secret” or “recalled” Watchtower article.
  There are literally dozens of clues indicating this was not written by any JW.

  1 Corinthians 5:11-13 clearly states, "But now I write to you, do not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler.

  The NWT uses 'extortioner' and not 'swindler' here so maybe thats another clue it didnt come from HQ? Time will tell.
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  The August Study Watchtower: what is the big deal?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been following a number of posts discussing the august watchtower study magazine.

  i really don't believe this common idea being passed around that it's being timed for the annual meeting.

  here's why.. the august watchtower will be available on servers not long before its public release.

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  An article discussing disassociation would seem relevant in the current legal climate facing the org.

  During the arc, the testimony that Rod Spinks made regarding the difference between disassociation and disfellowshipping was a masterclass in misdirection and obfuscation. Sadly for Rod, he was called out for it
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  Coming soon: Governing Body Update #4

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the upcoming governing body update, set to be released on friday this week, will feature a bearded samuel herd.. jwtalk website revealed the leak, so this thread will be used to speculate the content of the update and discuss the actual contents after its release..

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  joey jojo

  As long as the rank and file focus on beards and not the important stuff, the gb's job is done.
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  Generation Alpha

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  being generation x myself, with 2 teenagers in generation alpha, i see a lot difference between generations.. generation alpha has totaly different views.

  my first reaction at home about the current conflict between gaza and israel made this clear.. what an automatic reaction is for a generation x is a disaster for generation a.. result was my first shock about myself, generation x. do i see the global and local issues still clear?!?

  why became my teenagers so wise persons with a more balanced world view?

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  Im also a gen x'er. Growing up, we still had the news filtered for us by big media and only had the big tv stations and newspapers to go by. Today, we have multi-faceted opinions, in real-time, often by the actual people taking images on their phones. Like religion, It is harder for mainstream media to contrive a narrative that the majority will believe. There are less places to hide and information is readily available. In short, more and more people do not simply believe what they are presented by big media like we did in the past.

  In relation to the Gaza conflict, any negative comments against Israel have often been viewed as anti-semitic, however, criticism of Israeli political policy is not the same as anti-semitism. There have been atrocities committed by both parties. This conflict started long before October 2023 and regardless of who you believe has the moral high ground, it makes the world a more dangerous place for all of us.
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  Generation Alpha

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  being generation x myself, with 2 teenagers in generation alpha, i see a lot difference between generations.. generation alpha has totaly different views.

  my first reaction at home about the current conflict between gaza and israel made this clear.. what an automatic reaction is for a generation x is a disaster for generation a.. result was my first shock about myself, generation x. do i see the global and local issues still clear?!?

  why became my teenagers so wise persons with a more balanced world view?

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  How do your kids feel about the conflict?
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  The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.

  perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.

  how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).

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  There have been a lot of changes for the average dub to process recently. Some will have embraced the changes, others not so much.

  Maybe this wt will be about putting out fires and attempting to provide clarity as there must be quite a few confused JW's out there right now.
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  Consequences for actions. A high fat / sugary diet

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i want to illustrate my point about where many x-jws go wrong.

  to illustrate, imagine a morbidly obese person goes on a calorie restricted diet.

  subsequently he loses the excess calories and his health improves.

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  One of the mind games that the org uses is to make the JW's believe that only 'worldy' people have normal human problems. The fact is that cheaters, sex-fiends, alcoholics, drug users, wife-bashers, child abusers, mental illness and more exist in the org, as they do in the rest of society. However there are many, many 'worldy' people that are serious about being good parents, and generous, responsible, trustworthy people.

  Living a good life is its own reward. Its about balance, self-control and purpose. You can find those things outside of organised religion.
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  joey jojo

  In the 80's in Australia, we had Vincent Toole as C.O. As a kid, I thought he was ok - but then again- kids are idiots.

  During the ARC he came across as a bit vain and out of touch.

  
  
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  First video from the convention is all about FEAR

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/cdzydtuoblw?si=tyr8hgdgaiyn7c4h.

  this was leaked only few days ago and it's a small segment of the video from the 2024 convention that has already started.

  the video shows a jw logo down while worried jws are watching it as a news item on their tv screens, others are seen hiding from the police, others driving is the countryside to escape the authorities.

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  joey jojo

  So? Where are they all going? They are ready, go bags packed, bikes, but where are they going? No more halls- sold off! Can't get to NY to new HQ's, so where?

  Yes , and Im sure the multiple telephone calls they are using to co-ordinate their getaway cant be tracked.